Johnson: The remarkable persistence of 24 x 36

  The “miniature camera” design developed by Oskar Barnack and based on the 24x36mm, has been remarkably resilient and is now the standard on which other frame sized are judged (Image Mike Evans)
The “miniature camera” design developed by Oskar Barnack and based on the 24x36mm, has been remarkably resilient and is now the standard on which other frame sized are judged (Image Mike Evans)

Mike Johnson in his blog The Online Photographer1 addresses the issue of the 24×36 format and why it has lasted so long, eventually becoming a standard in the digital age:

A hundred and five years ago, in 1913, an asthmatic photographer who worked as an engineer for the Leitz optical factory in Wetzlar, Germany, seeking a less burdensome camera to carry, invented a handy little camera that was about as small as he could make it. It used 35mm movie film, so-called because its overall width, including the sprocket-holed edges, is 35mm. The film had the sprocket holes along both edges for registration in movie cameras and projectors, and, because it traveled a vertical path in both, each discrete image was 18x24mm, a 3:4 ratio. Barnack, who fitted his creation with a 42.5mm lens, was constrained to use the same image area width of 24mm—but, because he used the film traveling horizontally in his camera, he was able to double the other dimension, resulting in the comparatively lavish larger image area of 24x36mm, a 2:3 ratio.

For want of a better description, a sensor measuring 24mm x 36mm is now called “full-frame” and few bat an eyelid. Those who have a more historical awareness usually bristle at the term, citing medium format and, even, ancient plate cameras as evidence that the frame is anything but full. They often insist on putting quotes just to make sure that any reader is aware that the writer is an intelligent being who uses the term under duress. Note that here on Macfilos I don’t do this. I assume it is our readers who are intelligent enough to know that full-frame is an established term. However flawed in concept, however misleading, it is the best we have.

  Confusion reigns: the 1” sensor is now considered to be the smallest size for enthusiast cameras, with the tiny sensors from 2/3” downwards handed over to the smartphone. But why can we not have a more sensible way of referring to the main sensor sizes? (Image Wiki Commons)
Confusion reigns: the 1” sensor is now considered to be the smallest size for enthusiast cameras, with the tiny sensors from 2/3” downwards handed over to the smartphone. But why can we not have a more sensible way of referring to the main sensor sizes? (Image Wiki Commons)

Best we have

It may be a misnomer but it is all we have — for the moment. It is a term that is understood, despite the underlying nonsense. I some ways, I wish we could create new terminology to cover the main current sensor sizes used by serious photographers — 1in, m4/3, APS-C, full-frame and medium format. Even A, B, C, D and E size sensor would be better than what we have at the moment.

And, while I’m daydreaming, what about a system based on the crop factor, something which is generally understood and refers directly to the relative size of sensor? On that basis, the full frame sensor as we now call it could be, say, the S10; APS-C would be S15; micro four-thirds, S20; and one-inch, S27.

Perhaps the International Standards Organisation could study the issue and come up with something better. But then again, perhaps not. We would wait decades for a ruling, without doubt.

At the moment, the descriptions of the sensor sizes are all arrant nonsense. Even 1in, which is seemingly the most logical, isn’t quite what it appears to be. 

Why, for instance, do we still insist on using APS-C? Few younger photographers realise that APS stands for Advance Photo System which was a film-camera standard using a 25.1 x 16.7mm negative. APS was launched by Kodak in 1996. It had a number of advanced features, including the ability (in certain circumstances) to remove a partially exposed film and then use it again later.

I remember being quite taken with the idea at the time. It was a system intended to make things easier for the photographer, although it never clicked with the pros. It did enjoy popularity in the point-and-shoot milieu and, had it not been for the sudden rise of digital, it could well have found a permanent place on dealers’ shelves. APS was discontinued in 2004. Yet the inconvenient and hard-to-type APS-C moniker lives on. Why? A “C-size sensor” or an “S15” would be much more logical if we were to rename all sensors based on system such as I mentioned earlier.

  Film lives on, and the 35mm standard lives on to help us describe modern digital sensors *(Mike Evans)
Film lives on, and the 35mm standard lives on to help us describe modern digital sensors *(Mike Evans)

Miniature

In Barnack’s day, of course, the 24×36 format was anything but “full-frame”. It was positively tiny and few serious photographers thought it could ever compete with the massive plate cameras of the day or, even, the with roll film standards employing relatively huge sheets of film. Indeed, until well into the 1930s, Barnack’s 35mm film system would be dismissed as a medium of “miniature photography”. Proponents, I suppose, were the micro four-thirds enthusiasts of their day, evangelical but with good cause. I remember that even in the late 1950s, press photographic departments were fiercely resisting the adoption of 35mm. Don Morley told me that at Associated Iliffe Press in London (for which we both worked in the early sixties) his Leica was banned for professional use. Things changed rapidly in the 1960s with the advent of Pentax and Olympus SLRs in particular. 

For the time being, though, we are saddled with these awkward and now-meaningless descriptions. So-called full-frame is now the commonly accepted norm or standard (without wishing to provoke dissent) but, perhaps, we should start calling it “standard format”. It would make a lot more sense, especially since cropped sensors have a known and clearly recognised conversion factor based on 35mm, while MF has its reverse crop factor — all referring to the “standard format”.

But what is absolutely remarkable is the persistence of 24×36, as Michael Johnson says. Barnack’s silly little scrap of celluloid has indeed taken over the photographic world, now in spirit if not in substance, even as we move into the second stage of the digital revolution. This is history that can never be taken away from Leica.

1 Read Mike Johnson’s full article here

6 COMMENTS

  1. I agree, the current convention is completely bananas, particularly the APS-C hangover! The ‘inch’ measurement or whatever it is makes no sense to me at all.

    Definitely time for someone clever to come up with a new naming format!

  2. Thanks for reprinting this, Mike. Really good to have a sensor diagram which includes Medium format – whatever we’re going to call it in the future. And thanks for the other comments. I really appreciate these historical overviews and hope they will always be at least an occasional dimension of the future macfilos. (Which my computer insists on calling "mayflies!)

  3. The bit I find weird about sensor sizes, is that the Medium format sensor size, is often missed off the diagram, leaving only the full frame sensor and its smaller breathren in the picture – thus creating the impression that it is the largest sensor size.

    In this oh so modern world, surely we could just start at size 1 for the biggest (medium format) and as each successive generation that is smaller has a straight forward number – so the smartphones would be 11 onwards by my reckoning. And full frame would be 2. Maybe I like simplicity too much. The confusion you could create from the next release of a Nikon/Leica/Canon size 2 camera would make it more entertaining for those trying to unravel the new code.

    I do like your standard format for the current ful format as an alternative to numbers.

    Dave S

  4. Oskar played around with a number of formats based on cine film before settling on 24x36mm and there were further discussions with Berek before he settled on 50mm as the ‘standard lens’. The term ‘full frame’ has come to mean a digital sensor which allows lenses designed for 35mm film to produce an image that fills the sensor. I don’t think the term is ‘future proofed’ but neither are ‘mirrorless’ or ‘APS-C’ etc. The real step forward for 35mm came with the Nikon F of 1959 which produced a large flexible equipment system which enabled working professionals to get photos where and when they wanted. Ironically, this almost killed Leica the company which owed its existence to Barnack’s creation. Many years earlier with the I Model C and the II Model D, Barnack had created the beginnings of the system camera, but the rangefinder system could not match the SLR when it came to using long telephotos and extreme wide angle lenses. David is right to point to the cold shoe/hot shoe which goes back to the Ur Leica of 1914. The basic design of most 20/21st century cameras with 35mm/full frame and interchangeable lenses goes back to the early Leicas, give or take a prism hump or two, or plastic blobs in more recent years. In Wetzlar recently an LHSA member produced a box shaped computational camera. Stefan Daniel just said that Leica were keeping an eye on developments in that field. Mobile phones are, of course, slab shaped.

    Oskar Barnack wanted a small camera. He called it ‘Lilliput’ after Jonathan’s Swifts mythical country of little people. Those so-called miniature cameras are still greatly valued today. One of then sold recently for more than €2 million. What would Oskar have thought?

    William

  5. Look at the "hotshoe" on any camera (..of course, the flash, or accessory, shoe became "hot" only when it first had a flash contact added at its centre).

    It’s the same size and dimensions as the original accessory shoe on Barnack’s first ‘Leica’.

    This, too, "..is history that can never be taken away from Leica".

    • David B

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