Leica posts best financial results in a century

Leica’s financial results for the 2021/22 financial year come as a boost for all photographers invested in the brand’s equipment. Sales increased by 16% year on year to €450 million to chalk up the best business result in the company’s 100-year-plus history.

The M11 is partly responsible for boosting Leica’s profits. The M remains Leica’s most profitable range (Leica Camera AG)

Matthias Harsch, CEO of Leica Camera AG said that the return on sales also increased substantially: “The international premium manufacturer of cameras and sports optics products could thus draw a more than positive balance from the past financial year and was able to accelerate international growth despite the Corona crisis and its effects on supply chains and retail.”

Decade of growth

Here at Macfilos, we’ve been charting the progress of Leica ever since the launch of the M9 and the progress has been quite remarkable, despite a few setbacks and about-turns on the APS-C line. At a time when smartphone cameras have killed off the entry-level camera, emphasis in the field of “proper” cameras has moved inexorably up-market, although not quite into Leica price territory yet. It seems that enthusiasts are prepared to pay more for the latest digital wonders and Leica has benefited along with the rest.

What we often forget is that Leica is one of the few technology companies to have followed Apple with its dedicated one-brand retail stores. There are now more than 100 such Leica stores around the world, a familiar sight in prestige locations from Hong Kong to London. The company’s results show that they are successful. The stores, just like Apple’s counterparts, promote exclusivity and encourage customers to shop without the distraction of competing products. In most cases, as with Apple, customers pay full retail price.

Xiaomi

Another string to Leica’s bow is the cooperation with smartphone manufacturers, now focused on the Chinese brand Xiaomi. The arrival of a one-inch sensor in that company’s flagship product is a harbinger of future trends in smartphone cameras. More capable phone cameras will further erode interest in low-end dedicated cameras. Smartphones are the true inheritors of the “best camera is the one in your pocket” meme.

Yet there is just one aspect that troubles me. Leica’s partnerships with Android-based smartphones have the curious effect of excluding all Leica users (and they could be a majority) who are committed to the Apple system. However attractive the Xiaomi and its massive sensor, I would never abandon the Apple eco-system. I’m more than happy to accept whatever camera Apple provides.

I suspect, though, that Leica’s involvement with Xiaomi is aimed at expansion in new directions, particularly in China. The target is not the existing Leica camera buyer, but a more general market which can be seduced by the Leica brand when choosing a smartphone. In any event, it gives Leica a foot in the door of smartphone camera technology at a time when phones have virtually taken over the snapshot market.

Niggles

As I hinted earlier in this article, Leica hasn’t navigated the past ten years without making mistakes and without some curious changes of mind. A prime example is the rise and fall of the APS-C range. Following the tacit acknowledgement that the CL is dead, Macfilos readers have chewed the bone to fragments.

We’ve navigated the rocky road from the first X1 through the ill-fated X Vario and on to the innovative but ultimately unsuccessful T/L. Finally, a camera that most enthusiasts thought would provide a firm foundation for the future of APS-C at Leica. The CL is a brilliant little camera, the true inheritor of the original Barnack ethos, and deserved a future.

Oddly, as I have mentioned before, the original APS-C camera, the X1, was revolutionary in that it popularised the concept of a tine camera (Barnack size) with a fast lens integral lens and large sensor. Typically, Leica dropped that ball — the first of many — and abandoned the field to Fujifilm.

The much-maligned Leica X Vario never had a chance after a disastrous “Mini M” launch campaign. The “slow” lens was castigated. But the camera shone in use. This picture of a Beijing opera performance was taken at an improbable f/6.4 at 1/60s and ISO 4000 — and at the maximum zoom of 70mm equivalent (Mike Evans)

Still, we don’t know all the facts — especially not the financial aspects of continuing to develop the CL and, more important, the accompanying lenses. In reality, Leica’s APS-C venture died from neglect. However, the company clearly believes that concentration on full-frame sensors in the Q, SL and M ranges is most likely to maximise profits. No one can argue with that; Leica has to succeed and any dead wood, however attractive to a sub-set of customers, has to be excised.

Full-frame ahead

While smartphone camera technology is developed in partnership with Xiaomi, it is Panasonic that provides much of the electronic gubbins for Leica’s triumvirate of digitals. As recently announced, the technological partnership with Panasonic is expanding into unspecified future products and directions.

And the 2018 L-Mount Alliance between Leica, Panasonic and Sigma, has proved very successful in supplementing Leica’s range of lenses. In fact, without the existence of the LMA, it is doubtful that the SL would have had a future. Not only are Leica’s relatively few L-mount lenses very expensive, but development also appears to be moribund. Panasonic and Sigma have come to the rescue for many SL owners and these lower-cost optics make for a cheaper overall system which cannot be bad.

Micro four thirds

I’ve always had a soft spot for MFT and have owned both Panasonic and Olympus ILCs in the past. And I have often wondered why Leica doesn’t use its Panasonic connections to branch out into the format.

Street scene in Bath taken with the Panasonic GX8 and LEICA DG SUMMILUX 15mm F1.7 ASPH (Mike Evans)

The D-Lux, which Leica enthusiasts love, is based on the four-thirds format and I have a sneaking suspicion that a Leica-branded MFT camera would succeed and would step into the breach left by the departure of the CL.

Such a camera would be a Leica rebrand of a Panasonic, of course, following the D-Lux and C-Lux precedent, but it would sell at a premium and would bring more customers into Leica stores, creating new brand loyalty which could eventually percolate upwards to the M, the SL or the Q.

Often overlooked, is that Leica does have a wide range of high-performing MFT primes and zooms, ranging from the 9mm (18mm equivalent) f/1.7 Summilux to the 200mm f/2.8 Elmarit. And we shouldn’t forget that suburb 42.5 (90mm) f/1.2 Nocticron. They are manufactured and marketed by Panasonic, but they are there, just waiting for a Leica-branded MFT camera.

I list the lenses here because it really is an impressive collection. Dare I say that there are more Leica micro four-thirds lenses than Leica T or, even, L lenses.

Yet all this is certainly wishful thinking. Leica has repeatedly told us that it will never enter the MFT market. But wouldn’t it be nice if they did? I think there is a market there. What do you think? Would you buy a Leica-branded MFT system to replace your CL? Let us know below:

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37 COMMENTS

  1. @Brian I hope you are right about B&H getting a shipment of the Leica 35mm APO lenses.

    Of course, B&H likely has a wait list of 3 billion Leica disciples wanting the 35 APO, so whatever quantity they receive is probably already sold, or at least already spoken for.

    Leica continues to amaze/baffle/exasperate/obsess me and like you “the older I get, the more shocked I get.” As best as I can discern, there is absolutely no logic in the world of Leica – only love, passion, obsession and reverence for the cameras and lenses with the red dot. And I’m okay with that.

    If we Leica connoisseurs were pennywise, we would buy whatever cameras and lenses that Consumer Reports gave their blessings to. Fortunately, we understand the significance and the rewards of the passion we have for Leica. It’s all about the experience.

  2. Apple Mac users can process files shot on Android phones – I do it all the time! Why would Leica Mac users be excluded from using the Xiomi image files?

  3. I just read somewhere today that the wait time for the 35mm APO is now 3 years…. Probably goes a long way towards explaining the financial results…

    • And film cameras are also taking ages to come through. There just isn’t the capacity production at Wetzlar and I understand getting and training staff is a challenge.

    • As I understand it, the 35mm APO is a very difficult lens to manufacture, requiring a lot of hand work and fitting of the numerous moving parts.

      To complicate matters, there is one technician who has worked for Leica for decades who has the technical skills necessary to build this lens and to make certain that it meets the nearly impossibly high standards that Leica has established for the 35mm APO.

      This technician will build a run of 35 APO lenses for a month and then switch to another lens in order to not cause burnout and to ensure that the quality and craftsmanship standards for this lens are met. To Leica’s credit, they do not run this technician into the ground, demanding a thousand lenses a week from him/her (I believe it is “her”).

      Given all the above factors, it is not a surprise that the wait to acquire a 35mm APO is three years. My plan is to get the 35mm Summilux ASPH to shoot with until the 35 APO becomes available.

    • Hi, B&H is expecting Leica 35mm APO lenses within the next two weeks according to their website that I have found reliable. Anyway, personally I would purchase the similarly performing Voigtlander 35/2 APO even though it is larger and not 6 bit coded – at a tiny fraction of the price so the lens building person can go home on time to their family. I suspect Leica has a backup person to make these lenses or the manufacture management is no smarter than Stephan.😂 But who knows, the older I get, the more shocked I get. Scotty, beam me up, there are no signs of intelligence. 🤣

  4. I would buy an APS-C format Leica. Not micro 4/3, though.

    M4/3 is fine for online sharing but not so much for making larger size exhibit quality prints.

    • How many people make LARGE prints these days? I used a Panasonic G9 and got amazing images that an international model’s mother wanted 2 prints. My only issue with M43 is in extreme low light situations which is not a problem for a lot of photographers.

    • Are you going to tell talented photographers that they cannot make prints of their smartphone cameras? There are too many false views of the imaging quality of smart phones and M43 and even APS-c that influence new buyers unfortunately. I wish people would only criticize formats they have used and then explain the detailed criteria thet did not suit them. And then hopefully, they were competent users and had set up the cameras settings competently which is not trivial these days. Personally, I am still studying the Leica SL2 manual to sort out a few things.

    • Do you realize that earliest digital cameras are suitable for on line image viewing? I could cry at comments like yours.

      • I meant to say the earliest digital cameras were capable of images for printing (instead of online images).

  5. I moved up from the MFT D-Lux 109 to the APSC CL, it just doesn’t make sense for me to move backward. I love my portable CL & its ability to use M-mount lenses, I will continue to use it until it dies. I really hope Leica will develop an Interchangeable Lens Q with smaller L-mount lenses, that will be a logical upgrade for me. I like Leica’s philosophy & image quality but if they don’t produce a camera that fits my need, it will be hard for me to stay…..

    Yours Truly,

    • I think many readers share your view. I think there is a real possibility of a smaller mirrorless ILC camera, one based either on the M or the Q. Recent whispers tend towards a Q with interchangeable lenses. However, I am not sure Leica would embark on smaller L mount lenses and that market really belongs to Panasonic and, in particular, Sigma.

  6. Many Leica users dream of a small SL. Wasn’t that the CL? Wasn’t that the mythical go-everywhere handy powerful camera? On the weekend I enjoyed a really fantastic shooting. Fast, friendly, sharp and fully functional; just missing nothing the rangefinder feel.
    Thought in getting a Q, but stay on CL whatever the future means. I don’t think a L Q would improve it

  7. I think giving up the aps-c lineup is mostly about unit economy /profit margin. Their full frame bodies are just so much more profitable, not to mention the M lenses. Another factor is limitations to image quality. Leica’s future innovation lies largely in high Pixel sensors and new apo/asph lenses, and the aps-c format poses too many limitations in these regards.

    It would be interesting to see whether Leica can decide to make a full frame M mount evf digital body in the size of the CL.

    • We’ve had a lot of discussion on the subject of a smaller SL. It’s also been a big subject on the forums. Many would like an M body with EVF as an alternative to the rangefinder. The holy grail of a hybrid finder (not the Fujifilm compromise, but a no-compromise rangefinder with electronic overlay) but Leica has experimented with this and ruled it out as being technically too difficult or too costly to build. But I do agree that a smaller SL (look no further than Panasonic’s S5 for an example) would make sense.

      • There have been several (organized?) internal leaks on forums confirming that Leica is working on a Q2-sized L-mount camera. Such a camera would still be 3-4 years away. That being said, 3-4 years is a very long time and Leica roadmaps tend to be very unreliable so I would probably still expect to see even an M12 and even a Q4 before we even see such a camera. I certainly won’t let the fact that there one day might be a mythical smaller L-mount camera influence my purchasing decisions of today or even tomorrow. I guess I still cannot understand why Leica discontinued the CL. A CL2 would or could have been a perfect bridge to such a camera with the proper communication. Now Leica discontinues the CL and it has no solution whatsoever in its current portfolio, It remains totally incomprehensible to me that it treats its loyal APS-C customers in such an unrespectful way.

        • Going from a $2,500 camera and range of lenses to choose from, to a $5,500 camera with no real add-ons as your entry level camera is not that smart from a business perspective.

          They could have kept the CL going “as is” with more garish special editions (Elon Musk “420” Twitter Special Edition anyone?) to keep tickling the market until a replacement camera could be launched.

          • Leica could have done a lot of things but they didn’t… Discontinuing APS-C is one thing but doing it in such a way that blatantly shows that they don’t give a royal f*%k about their customers is another… As an also M, SL and S owner it gives me a pause but who cares…? Certainly Leica not it seems…

        • Yep, I am with you – Leica has not acted well towards its lower end user base – yes returns maybe slightly smaller, but they draw people into the bigger piece. They get people enticed to your ecosystem. So it is very shortsighted, and while they may of made the most profit in their history, are they on an exponential curve of sales, profits and sustainability. I would argue they are not – and they need to consider their future.

          A smaller, APSC, or even cheaper full frame entry point, brings people in, and if it uses L mount lenses – those lenses fit the higher entry point options. So you invest to be drawn in. The other camera makers understand this point, and work it with limited cheaper options that get you in to their ecosystem.

          I am not convinced that this years profits are entirely the shape of the future.

  8. I’l use my two Leica CL cameras until they are ineligible for repair or die.

    I’ll continue to use my TL lens, along with the Sigma DC DN contemporary lenses on my Sigma fpL.

    • I love this perspective, you are happy, and like me, I hope you remain so until the current set up packs up – who knows where we will be then, and how the industry will be.

  9. I love my X typ 113 – and images from it on Flickr routinely out perform images from Nikon Df, but I fail to see what I would to this set up, until one of them fails. I am nursing a failed battery retaining clip on the X, but it works fine for now. And the Df is just uber reliable, as you would expect, and operates in a wider window than the X.

    Yes I continue to look, but I would want bang for buck in terms of image quality – but the support for my current images, leads me to remain humbly satisfied with the equipment I have. Yes I will replace, or renew when things fail, and cannot be repaired.

    Just the view of guy with a love for photography.

  10. I think the press release is encouraging but leaves holes that would need to be filled to get a true picture.

    A sales increase of 16% is great, but you need to see the trending volume of unit sales by line over a 3-5 year period to know whether 16% was from a virtual collapse of sales or part of a continuing upward trend.

    If you want another perspective you need to understand operating costs over the same time frame vs top line revenue. And for a critical view of the future of Leica you need to understand what % of revenue is set aside for research ad development, and again what the 3-5 year data line looks like.

    I don’t imagine anyone but investors and financial advisors will get to see this data, so while the press release looks rosy, we really don’t know the realities of the company’s health.

  11. I held on to mft for years, wedded to the Pen-F and Leica/Panasonic lenses. But I sold them eventually last year; I find the TL2 and the T lenses simply perfect for light weight and rendering. They are my back up for the SL and M10. So far I have not felt the loss of MFT.

  12. I personally have zero interest in m43. I had the Panasonic GF1 and the Panasonic GH2 at a certain point in time. I didn’t particularly like them and I ended up selling them pretty quickly. I will keep on using the CL (till it falls apart, 200+ images yesterday) although I have in the meanwhile already
    added the Ricoh GR III and the Sony A7c as well.

    • I tended to have the same opinion, having decided about three years ago to sell all my MFT lenses and cameras. An interesting aspect is that over the years MFT cameras have increased in size to the point where some are as large as APS-C and, in some cases, as big as the smaller full-frame cameras (compare the S5 with the GX9, for insurance). And the lenses, by dint of better performance and faster glass, have also grown in size and weight. Meanwhile FF cameras have shrunk, especially in the case of Sony. APS-C remains squeezed in the middle and I don’t see a lot of point any more in APS-C unless the whole system is considerably smaller than FF. All that said, APS-C is enjoying a resurgence among the major manufacturers and the position of Fujifilm remains strong in the sector.

      • And I shall continue to wobble between Leica and Sony – horses for courses – but for sheer enjoyment of shooting and beauty of results, the X2 and the X Vario continue to hold first place.
        A very interesting survey, Mike. Thank you,

  13. I’m gradually moving to MFT (Panasonic). I’m starting to build up a system that I can share with my wife since she has a GM1 which has proven a pretty able camera so far. Watching reviews and videos of some Leica branded lenses the results are pretty amazing. The 15mm is certainly the lens I’ll add to my gear in a near future.

  14. Interesting reflections Mike. I use mft and aps-c cameras (olympus an fuji respectively), and I think that portability is foremost, and that full frame Is overkill. I mean, a Leica Q2 monochrom is a really fantastic imaging instrument, I am fascinated by its technology and general concept, but my fuji xe3, and even my Olympus omd-em10 (below 1600 ISO) produce very satisfactory A2 prints, and I almost never print larger. For me there is
    little room to improve above cropped sensors.

  15. Not having access as you to Leica, does this report break out which line sold the most by number of sales, eg q2 xxxx or how much is due to price increases?

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